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		<title>Comment on  by Dr. Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure that like most congregations ours is a mix of all of the types listed. If I had to pick just one that would &quot;nutshell&quot; it I would have to say that we are a nice, healthy congregation and would fall into the &quot;Missional&quot; type. Each type probably has it&#039;s pros I see it like this;

Country Club  
Pro: Many members = much in the collection plate, therefore funding the work of the church
Con: Those members involved are not really carrying out &quot;The Great Commission&quot; therefore not engaging any deeper discipleship.

Covienience Store
Pro: Usually a very emotional and powerful place to worship with gifts of the spirit being seen and felt.
Con: Again, it is nice to &quot;get fed&quot; at worship and that is important, but now that the little light is shining, let&#039;s let others see it.

Foreign Missions
Pro: These Christians provide the &quot;Treasure&quot; portion of the &quot;Time, Talent, and Treasure&quot; trio of serving. Some may be physically unable to do the hands -on  work and this is how they contribute, Make no mistake, we need these types of congregations.
Con: They are not really able to fully celebrate the good work that the Holy Spirit has done with their gifts since they are not there to see the benefits to those served.

Missional
Pro: a healthy mix of all of the other types in that everyone is working for the good of the body of Christ. A true sense of ownership of the ministry.
Con: What&#039;s not to like? This is the aspirational congregation!

In my current setting we have a nice stream of involved members. Members ranging from little kids to our most elder member, he is 96 and volunteers to cook dinner with the youth for our  monthly youth service project at the local battered women&#039;s shelter. Because of our location and weather we get many different elements coming thru our narthax and it is our goal to make everyone feel welcome.
We also have a School ministry with most families calling our church their home church, however we rarely see them, but more on that in my ministry plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that like most congregations ours is a mix of all of the types listed. If I had to pick just one that would &#8220;nutshell&#8221; it I would have to say that we are a nice, healthy congregation and would fall into the &#8220;Missional&#8221; type. Each type probably has it&#8217;s pros I see it like this;</p>
<p>Country Club<br />
Pro: Many members = much in the collection plate, therefore funding the work of the church<br />
Con: Those members involved are not really carrying out &#8220;The Great Commission&#8221; therefore not engaging any deeper discipleship.</p>
<p>Covienience Store<br />
Pro: Usually a very emotional and powerful place to worship with gifts of the spirit being seen and felt.<br />
Con: Again, it is nice to &#8220;get fed&#8221; at worship and that is important, but now that the little light is shining, let&#8217;s let others see it.</p>
<p>Foreign Missions<br />
Pro: These Christians provide the &#8220;Treasure&#8221; portion of the &#8220;Time, Talent, and Treasure&#8221; trio of serving. Some may be physically unable to do the hands -on  work and this is how they contribute, Make no mistake, we need these types of congregations.<br />
Con: They are not really able to fully celebrate the good work that the Holy Spirit has done with their gifts since they are not there to see the benefits to those served.</p>
<p>Missional<br />
Pro: a healthy mix of all of the other types in that everyone is working for the good of the body of Christ. A true sense of ownership of the ministry.<br />
Con: What&#8217;s not to like? This is the aspirational congregation!</p>
<p>In my current setting we have a nice stream of involved members. Members ranging from little kids to our most elder member, he is 96 and volunteers to cook dinner with the youth for our  monthly youth service project at the local battered women&#8217;s shelter. Because of our location and weather we get many different elements coming thru our narthax and it is our goal to make everyone feel welcome.<br />
We also have a School ministry with most families calling our church their home church, however we rarely see them, but more on that in my ministry plan.</p>
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		<title>Comment on  by Kelly L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I serve three different congregations. 

One church is mostly foreign missions congregations.  For a small congregations they actually give  a very large amount to missions via the synod, prison, and local ministries.  Such a giving church and it is great to be a part of but the con is that there is lack of involvement in the church to do hands on mission or to get involved personally with the ministries.  And it is the personal involvement that tends to change lives over check writing.  But I see that through our youth group and now currently building up families we are providing the tools and resources for that to hopefully change. So YAY!

The other two churches, I honestly find it hard to pick a category .  I want to say country club and convenience store mix.  They are a country club in the fact they have very close knit groups in the church but they are also very welcoming towards new people.  Convenience store because they come on Sundays as they are &quot;supposed&quot; to but I don&#039;t see it applied outside of the buildings or applied to their heart to get them involved in building the church body. 

I think the reasons we don&#039;t have the missional congregations yet it because a lack of vision and leadership to lead our bodies into that type of congregations.  I don&#039;t think there would be much resistance just no has pointed out the need to be one or how to become one.  But little changes are happening, which are way exciting.  One church started an adult Bible study going through the whole Bible and people who signed up are hungry for the word.  Another man is looking and gathering resources to start a men&#039;s group in a church where there is none!  And the small group leaders for our youth group are growing SO MUCH!  So God is definitely working.  

I would agree with Summer&#039;s pros and cons.  I think you did a great job with that Summer!  So I just pray for a vision, mission and leadership for a congregation change to be the church Jesus designed it to be!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I serve three different congregations. </p>
<p>One church is mostly foreign missions congregations.  For a small congregations they actually give  a very large amount to missions via the synod, prison, and local ministries.  Such a giving church and it is great to be a part of but the con is that there is lack of involvement in the church to do hands on mission or to get involved personally with the ministries.  And it is the personal involvement that tends to change lives over check writing.  But I see that through our youth group and now currently building up families we are providing the tools and resources for that to hopefully change. So YAY!</p>
<p>The other two churches, I honestly find it hard to pick a category .  I want to say country club and convenience store mix.  They are a country club in the fact they have very close knit groups in the church but they are also very welcoming towards new people.  Convenience store because they come on Sundays as they are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to but I don&#8217;t see it applied outside of the buildings or applied to their heart to get them involved in building the church body. </p>
<p>I think the reasons we don&#8217;t have the missional congregations yet it because a lack of vision and leadership to lead our bodies into that type of congregations.  I don&#8217;t think there would be much resistance just no has pointed out the need to be one or how to become one.  But little changes are happening, which are way exciting.  One church started an adult Bible study going through the whole Bible and people who signed up are hungry for the word.  Another man is looking and gathering resources to start a men&#8217;s group in a church where there is none!  And the small group leaders for our youth group are growing SO MUCH!  So God is definitely working.  </p>
<p>I would agree with Summer&#8217;s pros and cons.  I think you did a great job with that Summer!  So I just pray for a vision, mission and leadership for a congregation change to be the church Jesus designed it to be!</p>
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		<title>Comment on  by Summer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Summer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our congregation is a mix of these descriptions; we have people who just come to be filled and walk away with nothing more, we have those that just write checks and nothing more, and we do have quit a few of those that come for social hour with their clicks and nothing more.  We also do serve in mission works throughout the year, and are trying to work toward being the missional church.    As an ovrall congregation, I think that as a whole we lack the relationships that are needed to be more of the way church was intended to be a biblical missional church.  

Pro of a  country club:  numbers increase when our &quot;clicks&quot; join together on Sunday morning.  Con:  they walk away without the mission of the church being carried out.  Pro of the convenience store:  they hear the Word!  Con:  It didn&#039;t relate enough for them to take it home or practice their faith.  Pro of foreign mission:  donations are keeping the current financial books running and we can fund our programming most of the time.  Con:  We don&#039;t have enough volunteers to back the financial support given to run the programs needed.  Pro of the missional church:  we serve all members and give opportunities to carry out the mission of the church by empowing them to grow in faith regardless of age.  Con:  those looking for just the convenience store, country club, or foreign affairs situtations will be turned off initially because change is difficult.  

We celebrate new members, we fellowship between services every week, and we continue to look for new ways to grow and improve our relationships among members!

We need to build relationships outside of the &quot;clicks&quot; (yes this feels like elementary school sometimes) and encourage the entire congregation to feel as though they are part of our one family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our congregation is a mix of these descriptions; we have people who just come to be filled and walk away with nothing more, we have those that just write checks and nothing more, and we do have quit a few of those that come for social hour with their clicks and nothing more.  We also do serve in mission works throughout the year, and are trying to work toward being the missional church.    As an ovrall congregation, I think that as a whole we lack the relationships that are needed to be more of the way church was intended to be a biblical missional church.  </p>
<p>Pro of a  country club:  numbers increase when our &#8220;clicks&#8221; join together on Sunday morning.  Con:  they walk away without the mission of the church being carried out.  Pro of the convenience store:  they hear the Word!  Con:  It didn&#8217;t relate enough for them to take it home or practice their faith.  Pro of foreign mission:  donations are keeping the current financial books running and we can fund our programming most of the time.  Con:  We don&#8217;t have enough volunteers to back the financial support given to run the programs needed.  Pro of the missional church:  we serve all members and give opportunities to carry out the mission of the church by empowing them to grow in faith regardless of age.  Con:  those looking for just the convenience store, country club, or foreign affairs situtations will be turned off initially because change is difficult.  </p>
<p>We celebrate new members, we fellowship between services every week, and we continue to look for new ways to grow and improve our relationships among members!</p>
<p>We need to build relationships outside of the &#8220;clicks&#8221; (yes this feels like elementary school sometimes) and encourage the entire congregation to feel as though they are part of our one family.</p>
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		<title>Comment on  by Summer</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2012/02/21/282/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Summer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait; churches have water coolers?   We are Lutherans...its the coffee pot ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait; churches have water coolers?   We are Lutherans&#8230;its the coffee pot <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership Worth Replicating by Karen Schultz</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/12/07/leadership-worth-replicating/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Schultz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being the nerdy &quot;word&quot; person that I am, I looked at the definition of replicate in dictionary.It says &quot;to repeat, duplicate or reproduce, especially for experimental purposes&quot;. That experimental purposes part got me. So, what might I do -  in future, to have my method or style of leadership duplicated? And, we have to note that the premise of this commentary is that we should lead with high standards, not in mediocrity. I would continue to try to be a disciple of Jesus, though -since I&#039;m pretty flawed- it&#039;s an every day renewable challenge. Just praying for the Holy Spirit to lead me, to know how to listen and follow, to genuinely love those in my midst and to be brave enough to try something different if the &quot;tried and true&quot; isn&#039;t working, to allow others to do and sometimes struggle with the task, while gently encouraging.
 Access to documents for future leaders is truly important, too. I came into my position with a new title but under the shadow of a&quot; high pedestal person&quot; and couldn&#039;t find much in the way of what, who, when, where things had been done prior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being the nerdy &#8220;word&#8221; person that I am, I looked at the definition of replicate in dictionary.It says &#8220;to repeat, duplicate or reproduce, especially for experimental purposes&#8221;. That experimental purposes part got me. So, what might I do &#8211;  in future, to have my method or style of leadership duplicated? And, we have to note that the premise of this commentary is that we should lead with high standards, not in mediocrity. I would continue to try to be a disciple of Jesus, though -since I&#8217;m pretty flawed- it&#8217;s an every day renewable challenge. Just praying for the Holy Spirit to lead me, to know how to listen and follow, to genuinely love those in my midst and to be brave enough to try something different if the &#8220;tried and true&#8221; isn&#8217;t working, to allow others to do and sometimes struggle with the task, while gently encouraging.<br />
 Access to documents for future leaders is truly important, too. I came into my position with a new title but under the shadow of a&#8221; high pedestal person&#8221; and couldn&#8217;t find much in the way of what, who, when, where things had been done prior.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Navigating Change by Blake</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/10/27/navigating-change/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The church I served at has financial secretary and how only worship at has had the problem of transitioning from a senior pastor that served the congragation for forty plus years and then had three senior pastors in ten years. Our current senior pastor has been able to rally most people for the mission to &quot;get our hands dirty&quot; for the cause of Christ. The biggest thing to remember during a change is it always PRAY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church I served at has financial secretary and how only worship at has had the problem of transitioning from a senior pastor that served the congragation for forty plus years and then had three senior pastors in ten years. Our current senior pastor has been able to rally most people for the mission to &#8220;get our hands dirty&#8221; for the cause of Christ. The biggest thing to remember during a change is it always PRAY.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fresh Brewed Faith by Blake</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/10/19/fresh-brewed-faith/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order to keep my faith life &quot;amped up&quot; I read a daily devotion book published by The Upper Room. The reason why I like this devotional is that it is interdenominational and also uses multiple translations of the Bible. I also keep my faith growing by reading books by Christian authors such Mark Driscoll, Francis Chan, and Craig Groeschel. I&#039;m currently reading Craig Groeschel book &quot;Weird&quot; and also Mark Driscoll&#039;s book &quot;Doctrine.&quot; With my wife and three children I try and send them daily thoughts or Bible verses every day. I also pray consist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to keep my faith life &#8220;amped up&#8221; I read a daily devotion book published by The Upper Room. The reason why I like this devotional is that it is interdenominational and also uses multiple translations of the Bible. I also keep my faith growing by reading books by Christian authors such Mark Driscoll, Francis Chan, and Craig Groeschel. I&#8217;m currently reading Craig Groeschel book &#8220;Weird&#8221; and also Mark Driscoll&#8217;s book &#8220;Doctrine.&#8221; With my wife and three children I try and send them daily thoughts or Bible verses every day. I also pray consist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Navigating Change by Pam</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/10/27/navigating-change/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change.......we all need change.  Things need to change in order to grow.  And with change comes struggle. How much stuggle may depend on how the change is approached.    Fredrick Douglas once said..&quot;With struggle there can be no progress.&quot;  So struggle away......because we are going places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change&#8230;&#8230;.we all need change.  Things need to change in order to grow.  And with change comes struggle. How much stuggle may depend on how the change is approached.    Fredrick Douglas once said..&#8221;With struggle there can be no progress.&#8221;  So struggle away&#8230;&#8230;because we are going places.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fresh Brewed Faith by Pam</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/10/19/fresh-brewed-faith/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also sing in the worship band.  I look forward to our weekly practices.  The music and singing have become very important faith practices for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also sing in the worship band.  I look forward to our weekly practices.  The music and singing have become very important faith practices for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fresh Brewed Faith by Pam</title>
		<link>http://leadingonpurpose.org/2011/10/19/fresh-brewed-faith/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the UCC daily devotionals delivered to my smart phone.  My goal is to take time everyday to read and reflect.  However, there are times when a week goes by and I have all those unopened devotions from the week and I know it is time for me to slow down.  Faith practices and rituals need to be intentional!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the UCC daily devotionals delivered to my smart phone.  My goal is to take time everyday to read and reflect.  However, there are times when a week goes by and I have all those unopened devotions from the week and I know it is time for me to slow down.  Faith practices and rituals need to be intentional!</p>
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